i don't remember karl rove. >> karl rove is a wheeler dealer. he's playing right into the hands of the democrat party. >> bottom line is that they zront a better record at picking winners than the quote, unquote amateur tea party types do. and when they pick winners, what do we end up winning? we get squishy republican moderates. >> bill: joining us now is karl rove. i don't know why they're upset. you just want republicans to win, right? >> yes. yes. right. >> well, look. i was the director of the texas campaign for ronald reagan, fall of 1980 appointed by president reagan to sit on white house fellows selection panel. i didn't meet him but he wanted to know where the heck i was then, well that, is where i was. let's be clear about what this is about. conservative victory project is an outgrowth of desire donors of american cross roads to get involved in primaries. rush said we zront a better roord than the tea party. i've been involved and gave money to marco rubio early in his campaign. i gave money early to pat toomey. went and gave a speech